How to hide from Predator Drones UAV – Unmanned Aerial Vehicles Survival Guide

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How to hide from Predator Drones UAV – Unmanned Aerial Vehicles Survival Guide

The General Atomics Predator Drone is an unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) typically operated by US Air Force AFSC 1U0X1, UAS – Unmanned Aerospace System Sensor Operators. Drones are equipped with the AN/AAS-52 Multi-spectral Targeting System, armed with GBU-12 Paveway II laser guided munitions, camera (generally used by the pilot for flight control), a variable aperture infrared camera (for low light/night), and a variable aperture day-TV camera. The Predator Drone is an armed, multi-mission, medium-altitude, long endurance remotely piloted aircraft (RPA) that is employed primarily in a killer/scout role as an intelligence collection asset and secondarily against targets.

The aircraft can employ two laser-guided AGM-114 Hellfire missiles which possess a highly accurate, low collateral damage, and anti-armor/anti-personnel engagement capability. The MQ-1B Predator handles reconnaissance while MQ-9 Reaper is used primarily “in a hunter/killer role,” and secondarily for intelligence. The drone endurance is more than 40 hours and the cruise speed is over 70kt. The air vehicle is equipped with UHF and VHF radio relay links, a C-band line-of-sight data link which has a range of 150nm and UHF and Ku-band satellite data links.

The targeting system is a primary threat. The MQ-1B carries the Multi-spectral Targeting System (MTS-A) which integrates an infrared sensor, a color/monochrome daylight TV camera, an image-intensified TV camera, a laser designator and a laser illuminator into a single package. The effective operational radius of the aircraft is about 459 miles.

How to hide from Predator Drones UAV – Unmanned Aerial Vehicles FLIRUAV remote sensing functions include electromagnetic spectrum sensors, gamma ray sensors, biological sensors, and chemical sensors. A UAV’s electromagnetic sensors typically include visual spectrum, infrared, or near infrared cameras as well as radar systems. Click here to download the JFCOM UAS – A detailed explanation of drone operations, schematics, and capabilities that include;

  • Full-color nose camera that the pilot uses primarily to navigate the craft
  • Variable aperture camera (similar to a traditional TV camera)
  • Variable aperture infrared camera for low-light and night viewing
  • Synthetic aperture radar (SAR) for seeing through low visibility

Why are drones a threat to Americans?

DOJ Eric Holder recently wrote about the use of drones on American soil;

“For example, the president could conceivably have no choice but to authorize the military to use such force if necessary to protect the homeland in the circumstances like a catastrophic attack like the ones suffered on December 7, 1941, and September 11, 2001,” – Eric Holder Attorney General of the United States – Department of Justice

The federal government has increased hostile behavior towards law-abiding constitutional citizens that simply wish to live free. If you have read our previous article The American Government Continues to Target Preppers, you are fully aware that the Department of Homeland Security (the guys who now control domestic drones) have classified survivalists, preppers, veterans and constitutional conservatives as potential terrorists. In addition to DHS targeting Americans, purchasing millions of rounds of ammunition, and a couple thousand UPV – Urban Pacification Vehicles, while states like Colorado force retailers to report citizens who purchase food in bulk as ‘suspicious’. As of March, 2013 – the FAA has authorized over 106 Government ‘Entities’ to fly domestic drones.

To be adequately prepared means understanding the fundamental dynamics of drone evasion and survival. Over the past few years people have scrambled for ways to evade and disable predator drones. Militias and military organizations with the proper equipment are capable of disabling drones via the use of;

  • Manned Aerial Fighters
  • Surface/Ground to Air Missiles SAM/GTAM
  • Theoretical Aerial Mines (Weather balloon perimeter grid equipped with impact detonated mines)
  • MANPADS/MPADS Shoulder launched SAM/GTAM
  • Anti-Drone Technology such as EW/ECM Data link Jammers
  • GPS/RF Jamming Technology for Micro-drones (You can easily build your own)
  • There has been some success in shooting down large fast flying US military drones – similar to the BAU – using small arms fire; AK47s, M16, Shotguns and Etc.
  • Russian Issued Sky Grabber Software for Signal Hacking

Knowing how to disable a predator drone sounds good but the reality is drone technology continues to advance and their weaknesses will be quickly addressed. Luckily, drone technology isn’t there yet and can be tricked with some rudimentary tactics.

Hiding from drones with clothing

The UAV Predator Drone is equipped with infrared scanners that are able to identify a target by its heat signature i.e. thermal radiation. Adam Harvey of Stealth Wear has designed counter surveillance clothing. These ‘Anti-Drone’ garments are designed with a metalized fabric that protects against thermal imaging surveillance.  Seen here →

You can make your own counter-surveillance garments using a bit of ingenuity and a little investing. Materials such as metalized Mylar, Aluminum, Gold, Plexiglas and various types of pigment coatings will block IR (Infrared Radiation) Detection – a drone’s primary target identification system. You can also ready the usCrow How to Effectively Avoid FLIR and Aerial Detection Article for further details.

Hiding from drones with debris and the environment

Remember the end-scene from Predator, where Arnold Schwarzenegger covered his body with mud to avoid being detected by the alien predator that was using IR Detection? Now Americans citizens are utilizing the same method in real life. People across the country are covering their vehicles and habitats with mud, applying leaves and other foliage that matches the topography and blending in. Mud will block IR to a certain degree but it has it’s limitations due to the nature of infrared radiation. However, this method will hide your vehicle and home from drones using Non-IR standard camera viewing modes. Drones are built to hover, and their cameras are often taking fixed-viewpoint shots for long periods of time, or switching angles at particular intervals. A car traveling across the drone camera’s field of vision will do so for a brief period of time before disappearing, so a crude disguise has merit.

Other ways to avoid drone detection

In Timbuktu, a drone evasion tip sheet has been discovered. This tip sheet was written by Muslim extremist Al-Qaeda operatives who have been targeted by US Armed Forces with Predator Drones. This tip sheet illustrates several mundane methods employed by the insurgents that include using reflective glass or Plexiglas on roof/car tops, hiding under trees, underneath dense concrete structures, affixing woven reed mats to vehicles, and using counter-surveillance techniques such as; using mannequins, dolls, and staged equipment to trick drone operators. With the primary focus being placed upon visual camouflage and evasion, these techniques warrant merit. However, if your location has been identified and a strike package has been authorized, there is no real defense other than a solid prayer.

Do you have drone evasion tips? Comment below and help your community. The time is quickly approaching where lines will be drawn in the sand and you will be forced to choose between a life on your knees or death on your feet.

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44 thoughts on “How to hide from Predator Drones UAV – Unmanned Aerial Vehicles Survival Guide

  1. Take out the source of the problem Find where the operators are located, their routes to and from work to home. Where their kids go to school.

  2. We are all f***ed. It does not matter what you do as a countermeasure. You got a drone with a rotating crew that will stay awake even while you are sleeping. You wake up from one of your sleeps, off guard, walk outside to do something dumbass, forgettin the persistent eye in the sky, and in your moment of forgetfulness, they or it has got you. You guys all talk big about counter measures, but with all due respect, why confront the tail of the snake. That snake is only gonna bite back harder. It has time, resources, a corrupt government, ruthlessness, tactical patience, fresh wannabees ready to fill the shoes, and you think you will evade? Any good idea that is worth two cents would never be published on a website, because all those ideas suck, said with respect of course. You have to understand the magnitude of what you are facing. It is basically a ruthless assymetric oppression by a country that is not now and will never be controlled by the very people who think that they actually vote each year. With one vote you reinforce the head of the snake, and then the very tail of that snake comes home to bite you! So how many of you still want to fight the tail of the snake? Pointless! Now, what is more concerning is the shitstorm brewing on the global horizon of our monkey-see-monkey-do fucked up planet. China, Russia, EU, fuck you name it. All the other monkeys are tryin to doing exactly the same as the clever american monkey. What a sad future. I am not optimistic about the future, we are all fucked, why, because we are an idiotic self destructive species who is unable to think for ourselves. We create our own destruction, and then go home tapping ourselves on the back at how righteous or good we are. We are all just plain stupid as long as we keep trying to fight the tail of the snake.

    • @”damn” Yeah, the situation is FUBAR, but you’re fucked up defeatist attitude helps nothing. You propose nothing but defeat and apathy. You give nothing of value except demoralization. So what do you do? Roll the fuck over and give up without vigilance? Fuck that. It’s not countermeasures that are a stupid idea, it’s knowing what countermeasures and what tactics are a stupid idea. Any countermeasure against a drone should be understood is just a worthless idea if it’s an overt direct action such as trying to blind it or shoot it down with small arms or jam it, UNLESS such tactic is a last resort because you’re already under observation or attack, or boxed in somewhere. If you haven’t been spotted yet that you are aware of, then the proper countermeasure when fighting asymmetrical is to avoid contact all together and get the fuck out of the AO as soon as possible. Take the spec ops model to heart. Above all else their goal is to avoid contact except on their specific planned terms where advantage and surprise is reasonably assured. If terms are not favorable to engagement, then contact is avoided like the plague. That’s how unconventional warfare fighters need to regard such things. Do not stay in place if you have reason to believe a drone is there and has spotted you, because only more assets will follow and make it harder for you to exfiltrate later. And certainly don’t be stupid enough to attempt to engage one if you aren’t pretty damn sure you’ve already been acquired. That’s just dumb to do anything to call attention to your position. AR-15s aren’t going to take out drones. Unless you have some captured miniguns, Stingers, or 50 cal with an assload of ammo…it’s stupid to even attempt. It’s not resistance that futile. It’s resisting STUPIDLY and taking bait that THEY put out there for you.

      Same thing was done in Vietnam with OH-1 and OH-6 helos. Fly around fast and low, and wait to draw small arms. As soon as they do, the enemy got their ass hammered with arty, a QRF, fast movers on station, Cobras, or if you were really having a bad day – Puff the Magic Dragon or an AC-130. It’s just stupid in asymmetrical warfare to fire on conventional air assets if you aren’t forced to. STUPID.

    • So you’re saying that because they play hardball that you shouldn’t even try, but rather accept what you consider an inevitable death?

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  6. what about anchored balloons with some type of ordance attached and able to trigger at an appropriate moment ? like flying -floating flack

    how about multiple balloons holding up a ultra lite – netting to ensnare incoming drones ?

    balloons made up like mini blimps with charges and able to work togeather -tandum with other blimp like flying devices armed and have them rigged with glue like chemicals to splater on incoming drones- and lets not forget the micro netting ready to be launched on to incoming drones.

    • Non prior service people think too hard, and really, no offense, should concentrate on simply developing their own basic tactical and survival skills and not think so hard about strategy. If you can float a balloon, your balloon will be seen by a drone. And obviously since you’re going to employ your balloon deterrent resource in an area near yourself or where you don’t want something to be found by drones, then obviously you’re just giving your presence away. Most of the ideas I am seeing in this thread are dealing with active efforts to take them on, and you asshats are going to get yourselves or someone else killed. Your approach should be passive and to react to a drone contact only if you suspect your spotted. And if you are, your primary goal if you can take it out quickly is to evade it. The last thing you would do if you were military trained is to stay in place….A better solution for a counter measure to any low flying drones is a battery of mortar tubes loaded with shot, flechettes, or bolas cables, etc Don’t advertize your presence with balloons. All that does is give a drone operator a pretty good grid to give to QRF or arty. Think McFly! THINK!

  7. I’ve been on the run for 5 years, simple tricks work, never identify yourself, always have a fake reg mobile to betray a false identity, live in grouped housing with budies who dont know your true name, never drive and always pay cash, have your true idrntity registered to a previous address so that you are long gone and hard to find, if travelling, pay cash and sleep rough with a small tent. If you need to get away, do it on foot to a crowded place or use a bicycle which cant be followed down an alleyway

    • Yeaaaah…hiding out from the IRS is not really the topic, but I can already see a lot of fallacies with your technique. Getting online for one. If you’re wanted, even if you go to a public library or a coffee shop and use their wifi, your IP will give away the computer your on, and from there is quite easy to look at security camera footage from in and outside the location and use facial recognition software. Most of the things you’ve listed are actually RED FLAGS to cause you to be looked at harder. And…a drone can pull a Hellfire down an alley and destroy you and your bicycle. I’m not really sure what your point in in this thread dealing with defeating aerial drones….

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  9. It’s well known that Iraqis were watching footage from drones on their TV’s! NO, not all drone footage is encrypted. That sh*t is incorrect.

    • Isn’t there some way you could break through their signal and the drone would go down? I was at the beach a few weeks ago and these guys were flying their drones and another guy came up that had some kind of green lasor and he broke their signal and the drone went down!

  10. Coordinate those RC airplane people with those large scale model rocket people to make the missile. Then just make a cavity in the nose with a few primers on the meplat of the nose so when it hits something, it explodes.

    • seems unlikely to deal much of blow, remember those store bought rockets are less than reliable than the rpg, second there needs to be more bang for the buck in shooting down these eye sores, the UAV is the size of a small aircraft

    • Neil, no offense but a model rocket is one of the stupidest ideas I’ve heard. Not unless it’s an extremely expensive model rocket with some fancy guidance. Why would you waste time and resources on such a low probability of success when there are much simpler and efficient solutions? You’d do better just using a radio controlled plane filled with incendiary and running into the damned thing for one, but even that is not a very realistic plan unless you have a pretty fast model, pretty large model, and also a first person flyer video setup. How about just good old small arms if it’s within small arms range? If it’s not, then besides jamming it, what the hell do you possibly think you are going to do to a drone that is out of effective small arms range? Kill it with a model rocket?? Most hobby radio control you can’t get any farther transmission than 1 mile, so if it’s within that, I’d say have yourself some long range small arms. More bang for the buck and more accurate to put rounds on target and without having yourself become a transmitting beacon. Remember…radio signals, like tracers, work both ways. If you’re transmitting and the drone has an RF sniffer, they can see that.

      I developed an effective but cheap solution years ago for my guys, which in the day was in anticipation of low flying OH6 or OH58, and that was essentially buried batteries of dozens of mortar tubes made from any kind of pipe, and filled with flechettes (in custom sabot), or “dumb” rockets which when fired would trail a simple anchored cable up with them to entangle rotors. Cheap and effective if they snagged just one such cable in their rotor. But that was for an emplacement where you were defending and one day expected trouble, so it wasn’t a very portable idea unless you’re mechanized. IDK anymore but years ago you could buy flechettes in bulk from some of these exotic ammo suppliers. Admittedly not likely to be useful when it comes to the larger drones that will be armed and flying too high for that, but it can give you ideas for other uses. Works great when emplaced at an angle for a last stand at the Alamo fall back perimeter defense, or poor man’s claymore on ambush. I took many a Hoffman simulator apart and used the flash comp to fill rifled 37mm bird bomb casings, which went off with all the force of a 40mm HE round too. Lots of great development used to go on with the group I was involved with years ago.

      • You know your stuff, glad you’re with us. I hadn’t thought of an RF sniffer, thanks. I’m liking your ideas. Since the military has been effectively using guided rockets and missiles effectively for years, we should look into developing the same technology for our defense.

        • I’m formerly 1/5Cav, 1Cav Div but before that I was a special comm specialist in Europe with a TS clearance. And for many years, years ago, I was with the training cadre of a very effective group in Texas, back when such groups were very large and very visible and active. My primary responsibility besides running the basic training course for non-prior service civilians, was communications and improvised munitions R&D.

          And yes, RF sniffers, or what is often called “DF” for “direction finder” has been used effectively since at least Vietnam and the technology is only better today. When the N. Viets would turn on their search radars at their missile batteries, we had a missile called a “Shrike” which an F-4 Phantom would fire and the missile would ride the radar beam right down to the source and destroy the radar. The newer missile still in use today is called a “HARM”. The same tech is used to DF enemy communications nodes and artillery or other fire can be put on the source. Classically when the scenario involved a large conventional war against the Soviet Union, the doctrine was to jump location after a specified time of transmitting so that you were harder to triangulate, because it was assumed you would soon be taking artillery fire if you stayed in that position. These days, you should assume you will be droned. While most drones are too small to carry a HARM, and most small communications equipment is too weak a signal for something like a HARM to follow, and they aren’t going to bring out heavy hitters and fast movers for just any small target – a sensor on a drone nonetheless could get a good enough fix on you transmitting a weak signal it’s vicinity to take a closer look with optics and then put a Hellfire on you or direct other air or ground to you.

          Of course individual circumstances like terrain, your unit size, etc will dictate your protocols, but my general advice would be that if you are reasonably sure you haven’t been detected by a drone – leave it alone. Your attempts to engage, move out, or interfere with it will bring unwarranted attention. If you have been spotted by a drone or engaged by a drone, then take it out if possible QUICKLY, but do not remain in place wasting time being fixated with and firing at a drone with a .30-06 that is flying at 5k ft. You need to move your ass. That drone is just a messenger and it’s keeping you busy until something else gets there. Like 4.2 mortars or an Apache. Move your ass and evade the drone or until you think you have reached a position of substantial advantage for what may come and you have no choice. A drone overhead that is still searching for you is indication they know you are down there somewhere, and you can assume more assets will follow and take up station. So, in other words, taking up in a treeline where you might have evaded optical detection while the drone circles overhead is not good enough. If they still have an idea of where you are and that you haven’t left, then expect and assume a storm is brewing.

          • Outstanding sir. Experience is priceless. I’d rather listen and learn from someone who knows, than to be, or come off as one of these call of duty keyboard jockeys. This is far to serious for being childish.

        • As to specifically your statement about “developing” the same technology, I could not disagree more. This is a pure waste of time and resources to conduct programs attempting to develop high tech solutions against a much large conventional force. That’s the wrong way to asymmetrical warfare, sir, respectfully. No offense is intended, but I can reasonably assume that you are a non-prior service civilian. Most of them always have lofty ideas of developing these things. It is a waste and a pipe dream. Concentrate yourselves on developing SIMPLE AND LOW TECH solutions to high tech adversaries. The insurgents we have fought in other countries know this well. Learn from them. Sure, a radio activated IED is easy enough, but putting your efforts into radio seeking rockets and the like is foolhardy. Develop low tech solutions that are easily deployable, easy to maintain, easy to duplicate, easily fashioned with common materials, harder to prove the sources of when used, has the most efficiency for the effort and resource expenditure. That is most certainly not by developing RF sniffing rockets.

          There will be plenty of opportunity to “acquire” such things on the battlefield and convert them to your use. Just have people who know how to use them when you get them. Don’t waste your time trying to duplicate what your enemy has when you can simply create an opportunity to take his!

          I trained once many years ago with a guy who was a combatives instructor at Bragg and who was versed in Ninpo and was studying Krav Maga. He said something very relevant on this subject once, which always stuck with me – “If you have a rock, you can get a knife…if you have a knife, you can get a gun.”

          Clear now?

          • Crystal. Thank you. I’ll re evaluate my viewpoints and tactics on this. I am a civilian, I am an amateur,. Regardless, I am an American, and I’m tired of watching my country and its freedoms vaporize in front of me, it’s heartbreaking. I want to do something for my country, though I’m not stupid enough to be the one who thinks he can start something. If SHTF, I want to fight for and with our people, hoping to avoid repeating some of histories mistakes. Your advice is life saving.

  11. Back in the day in the rave scene (when it was still underground and not completely corporate) it was necessary when setting up outlaw parties to hide from police helicopters with IR. A Nuclear/Biological/Chemical suit is carbon lined and will provide some degree of concealment from IR. Sort of the same idea as the stealth garments described above but perhaps easier to source (the website is sold out of most items).

    • “Of course its encrypted you retard. It’s the military.”

      Which makes you the retard. An F-tard at that, likely not military or ex-military by the way you talk. Not all things transmitted are encrypted, dumbass, and it’s less likely with smaller tactical drones controlled locally. Between me and you, I’d bet I’m the expert here, since I’m a former special communications systems specialist with a TS clearance…moron. Now go back to your Call of Duty game.

      • LOL lovely said, true its highly unlikely military will expect civies to be able to hack software like theyres, so in agreement yes not all encrypted. Element of surprise gentlemen, the military takes us all as middle school children. To maintain that said element requires of destruction or dismember and scatter of equipment

  12. > Anonymous on 07/04/2013 at 17:54 said:
    > Save your old UHF antennas because they will pick up the camera feed of
    > any nearby drones. Allowing you to know exactly what the
    > operator is looking at.

    How exactly is this done?

    • Do you even commo, bro? Assuming the feed is unencrypted…
      Antenna + receiver + display = signal output.

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  14. AnonCry0 your idea, like tracers, works both ways. I wouldn’t be near that spotlight, and I would expect the spotlight to be lost in action. The most likely scenario is that the IR spotlight gets targeted, and then they resume the search for targets, because, now they know something is there.

  15. The use of metalized Mylar insulation is effective for the building of command and control bunker and hiding it from the IR cameras of the aircraft.
    Jamming the GPS receiver is effective but the closer to home base you do this the better you want to force them to be a maintenance headache to the ground crews. This will lead them to ground an Aircraft. The longer you jam the GPS the better at some point the aircraft will do a nose dive in to the ground.
    If you can get a 50 cal close to the base station you can disable the communication equipment there will be short range and long range equipment hit the long range com first this will be the bigger disk the \smaller ones are short range comm.

  16. Save your old UHF antennas because they will pick up the camera feed of any nearby drones. Allowing you to know exactly what the operator is looking at.

  17. I have seen this work , pieces of 6″ dia. pipe 5′ long stood on end and filled with hot embers and placed in weak shelter will fool operators in to thinking the building is occupied, applying a strong radio source at short burst intervals with a blinker on the mike switch will cause it to be a target forcing the drone to drop down for attack, giving concealed forces an opportunity to take it out, a good ham operator can hook up an overpowering signal emitter to jam the drone (less then 1 mile) contrary to propaganda they can be “shot” down with small arms in this scenario. but preparation is the key and false intell to the oppressing force is necessary

    • Actually, the smart move is to avoid being noticed, and thus avoid an engagement all together. Not to make thermal hot spots and RF signals in order to draw attention to yourself. And you’re pretty much wrong about a drone needing to come down into small arms range, so all you’re doing is exposing yourself. Drones don’t yet use guns. They use optics and hellfire missiles. Both of which work quite well from well outside of small arms range. Besides….shot down a drone and what do you think you’ve accomplished? All you’ve done is VERIFIED that your location is one for a QRF to drop in on you, and you’re asking for additional air power. Stupid suggestion IMO.

  18. You might also look into large IR spotlights in select locations. It’s the same aspect as trying to see the stars while gazing at the sun. Either you’ll go blind or you’ll give up, but you wont see any stars (Aside from the sun itself).

    • Only IF you know you’ve been spotted and targeted IMO and you’re trying to use it as a countermeasure while you extract your people. But someone will have to stay and man the IR source and keep it directed RIGHT at the optics of the drone, and this makes that person a target. I really don’t think it’s practical to have an IR spotlight large enough to “blind” a drone as anything more than a very short term delaying tactic, because a drone is able to climb to a couple miles high and mitigate such things and could still target you quite well from 10K feet…especially if you’re giving them a beacon for the missile to ride. Just like tracers, your idea two could work both ways.

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